I was always embarrassed once my bible studies progressed. I never felt comfortable explaining prophecies and the way the org is structured. Being familiar with two words would have helped me tremendously.
Cognitive Dissonance.
even as a witness,i was uncomfortable talking about everything we believed.
i remember working with my brother out and service and he found an interested person.
my brother was sharing information out of the bible teach book.
I was always embarrassed once my bible studies progressed. I never felt comfortable explaining prophecies and the way the org is structured. Being familiar with two words would have helped me tremendously.
Cognitive Dissonance.
i just thought that the question box of the november km was strange the way it was worded.
i tried to scan it but could not get it to come up so i will type it out.. ("who should fill out coupons and internet requests?.
our publications often contain coupons that can be filled out and sent to the branch office to request literature or a visit from jehovah's witnesses.
The branch is pushing it off on us making us feel bad yet again.
LITS - Good catch and good point. If the criteria is the mood of the householder, witnesses should have given up long ago. You're right it doesn't make any sense.
edit - WT has lotsa nerve. Got to give them that.
the gilead letter was read last night at the meeting, i had to listen in as they have reinstated my phone line, whatever.. so anywho the service overseer gave the part and he said that jehovah's organization is moving so fast that even what they have printed just a few months ago is now old and they just received a letter from the fs that was to be read tonight from the fs!.
the way he read it, he made it very exciting and like jehovah's chosen religion is moving so fast that it can hardly keep up and the letter was just proof.
the way this elder read the letter it made it sound like the married couples school is going to be so wonderful that it would suppress gilead in wonderfulness.. the elder doing the part then went on and on about how our educational programs are so much, much better than anything out in satan's world.
But it is convenient for someone who already went to college to say stuff like that and indicate that people should skip college. That's just a suck-up.
Pioneer school is the most useless waste of 2 weeks you can imagine!
Darth and OTWO - Now THAT is the truth!
The JWs are so impressed by their stupid WT schools. It is beyond ridiculous. They don't even sound well thought out anymore. What's the new one called? Bible School for Christian Couples? Something loopy like that?
Seriously?
stomach problems?.
okay i know it sounds cheezy.
but hopefully those of you who suffer these digestive problems won't just rely on your doctor's advice.
Yep Talesin, you're right. My nephew had reflux problems for a while as a toddler. The ACV worked like a charm. You can add it in a healthy juice or food if the taste is unpalatable for you. A lot of digestive problems have similar causes. It's worth a try.
i would like to share the information below with newer members and lurkers.
we're not insensitive to what you're now going through.
many of us have been in your position.
I didn't go through the reinvolvement or reassessment stages either. Maybe because we were solid in our reasons for leaving and had a definite strategy for exiting.
edit: Or maybe I went through them before we actually left.
i would like to share the information below with newer members and lurkers.
we're not insensitive to what you're now going through.
many of us have been in your position.
Been thinking about this thread since you posted it, Donny. As much as I hate admitting the effect leaving has had on me, I know that its impact has been profound. The only difficulty I haven't had is the inability to "find suitable employment".
Check on all the others.
you learn something new in the kingdom hall every week.... .
i told an elder that i'm not going out in field service yet but god knows why that is and it's between him and i (translation: jehovahs witnesses are not the truth and it's a colossal waste of time) and i assume the elder took it to mean i want to do it but can't for some reason because he said "jehovah doesn't know that though.
he has to see you out there in field service to know that you're serious.
He can't read minds but he can and does read hearts
you learn something new in the kingdom hall every week.... .
i told an elder that i'm not going out in field service yet but god knows why that is and it's between him and i (translation: jehovahs witnesses are not the truth and it's a colossal waste of time) and i assume the elder took it to mean i want to do it but can't for some reason because he said "jehovah doesn't know that though.
he has to see you out there in field service to know that you're serious.
Thanks for the funny of the day Venus... rofl.
for prayers from the platform.. i've "said my own" for a few years now if i find i cant agree with what the brother is praying about.
i'm constantly amazed by the same old repetitive ramblings and just nonsense that some brothers feel is an acceptable way to pray for a congregation.. once i've finished saying my own i'll listen again to what they are going on about, and round and round they go.
the worse ones are those who can hardly speak english and i cant understand a word thats said apart from the "...feffull slive... bless bruders sis not here..." blah blah.. and everyone has gone through the public talk prayer.
About 8 years before I left. Just didn't feel right. But I didn't think I was gonna leave the org at the time.
but when they end like that three times....it's strike three... or maybe it was strike #3,333,333.......but it is sad and painful for us both i know.....a person must be in a very very bad place to act like that in front a man you have loved and been intimate with for 15 years....and at that moment i am satan in front of her....a begging pleading attempting to reason satan...but still satan to her and her friends.....but this nice woman needs satan out of her life now....oompa.
i am not a bad person...i am not satan...i asked her why she thought i had tried so hard....told her that if she was in a burning building just how hard would she think i would try to get her out??
she did not like that analogy either...so i have started the painful process...the building is going to burn to the ground now....and i will never put her through that fingers in ears thing again.... and i will be fair and reasonable....and pay her the alimony and give her half....i could so be a satan to her in divorce....but i won't!...i can at least prove to them all that i am decent man...and not mentally diseased or satan.....and ahhhhh i feel good about that....plus both my boys are free now...
"Jehovah help me! Jehovah help me!"
Sad to say, we know she was serious when she said this.
Hang in there Oompa.